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ue each and every hoosier. ♪ >> and good day, i'm kristen welker in washington a very busy day in washington. we begin with breaking news from switzerland, we may have a breakthrough in the nuclear negotiations that have pushed past the u.s. deadline. andrea mitchell joins us live from luzon. andrea, is this the potentially historic moment that we've all been waiting for? >> reporter: it is because they have said that there will be a press statement over at a nearby university the press corps has been moved over there. it's going to take a couple of hours we're told to get them through security and all of the ministers over there. there is a report that we have confirm d that there was a lot of disagreement as to how much
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to announce whether to announce the specifics of a deal or keep them secret. iran wanted a very vague and boiler plate bull lit points we've agreed on but not the specifics of the deal. john kerry who has to face a very hostile congress wants as many specifics as they could put in and so do other leaders. they want to make sure they have pinned iran down and there's no wiggle room as much as they can in what they've produced here. there was disagreement about that. and there's some possibility according to one report and i've not confirmed this that iran and the european union may have a separate statement and perhaps this won't be a joint agreement. i don't think it will be jointly signed by the united states and by iran. but what the idea is that this will layout a work program for another phase going forward. and that phase is going forward to june 30th, when a final
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agreement are supposed to be agreed to. this is a very optimistic projection. we've been here for seven days now. they've been negotiating for all of these days. it's a full week. and they went as you may have heard until 6:05 this morning, john kerry and zarif, the iranian foreign minister. he went for a walk to get air and get exercise. i asked how much sleep he had. he said only two hours but better off than some others who had less. the worker bees if you will the technicians and scientists and experts talking about exactly how to lift sanctions and what the sanctions mean how to contain the enriched uranium or ship it out or not ship it out, if they don't, how many sentry fuj fujs they could have.
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it's all a seesaw if you don't ship the fuel out, you have to have fewer centrifuges. but all of these technical experts, the nuclear and economical experts working through night all of these days and keep coming up with proposals. let's say the iranians say no or u.s. says no you can't do that not acceptable then they have to go back to the drawing board and put it all back together again to come up with their bot many line which is at least a year's warning to the nuclear inspectors, to the world community before iran could break out or produce one bomb. and that is the real threshold. now already the critics, including a former deputy director of the international atomic energy agency in vienna said it's already not good enough even with the numbers we understand they are working with it would be only a number of months before iran could break out. israel has certainly said it's not acceptable.
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only yesterday benjamin netanyahu tried to preempt this saying why would you negotiate it would be unconscionable to negotiate with a murderous regime. you'll have a lot of criticism. the saudis are concerned and others agreeing with israel and saying privately to intelligence community and certainly to john kerry, if they do we will. then you'll have an arms race in the middle east. and that is the worst possibility. here you have a president, you know you cover him every day, he ran for office being criticized for not having enough foreign policy experience and criticized in the debates for saying he would be willing to negotiate with iran. and now he is negotiating with iran and people like john mccain saying they are taking him to the cleaners imagine how that is going to be in the congressional debate to come. you also have this as his legacy, what else in foreign policy has worked well so far? you've had a withdrawal from
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iraq a withdrawal from afghanistan, some say prematurely. isis created, the confusion in this lengthy horrible war and red lines being drawn against assad, civil war in syria, with assad still there, not -- certainly not having gone as the president declared some four years ago or more. so this has been -- the one issue that he thought he could negotiate -- i think we have chris hill a former nuclear negotiator with north korea and former ambassador in iraq and elsewhere around the world and now head of the corbel center in denver. ambassador hill we think now we have an agreement to keep talking. they have agreed on some containment of iran's nuclear program as i understand it. the new plutonium facility will be reengineered. we don't know what they are doing with all of the enriched
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uranium and don't know how many centrifuges, we believe 6,000 or less. but not a joint statement. there may be separate statements and it's a work program for another phase to move forward and negotiate all of these things and make a concrete signed agreement by june 30th. how realistic is this? >> it's obviously ambitious but i think whatever they come up with in the next few hours is going to meet with just a hailstorm of critics. i mean as your piece suggested, this is -- a lot of technicalities to this. very few layman understand this. the consequence will be you'll get experts all over the map, denouncing this. andre andrea, you made good points where saudi arabia is and with the saudis it goes deeper fears that the u.s. is recreating the 1970s relationship with iran which they don't want to see.
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this is agreement that's going to be tough to sell at hand. they have been ten ashs in demanding sanction relief and this is a tough sell with a congress that doesn't trust anything its doing. i still think compared to what else they can be doing, this is probably the best deal best way going forward. but i can remember from dealing with the north koreans when you just are on the cusp of this and then you think, why did i ever take this job? no one is going to like this thing. >> and as you point out, there are a lot of experts who are going to have their own positions and it's very hard to understand the technical stuff. john kerry will do classified briefings but i would posit that most in congress are not going to understand what they are being told. you'll hear people on all sides going off and taking shots at this without even knowing what good might be in it.
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one thing about it is it is believed that this will con strain iran to the extent that they have lived up to their commitments for the last 18 months. they have stopped their nuclear expansion and have cut back in fact. and this will probably be continued until at least june 30th. that's a good thing, right? >> i think it is a good thing. it's probably the best thing that's out there. but there are a lot of people who as you say won't understand the details and their point of view will be sanctions brought them to the table, a few more sanctions will bring them to their knees and i think the problem with that argument is that there's no evidence to suggest that sanctions in and of themselves have ever con strained their nuclear program. this was an element of negotiation. i think it's the right approach but it is really a tough sell as things often are. >> you know i had a few moments in a large group of reporters to go and ask minister zarif as he
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was taking a walk after this all night negotiating session and asked him about the sanctions issue. i'm not sure we have it available. do we have that to roll what he said on sanctions today? we don't have that but we'll play that in a moment. but in any case the europeans are eager to start doing business deals with iran. one of the arguments to congress is you may try to do more sanctions but europe is about to go in completely the other direction. >> yes, that should be a good argument with members of congress who are concerned about businesses and their districts and things like that. i think many members of congress will react to it by saying then we should be putting more pressure on the europeans. you're absolutely right, the europeans not only want the business, but they feel that this kind of interaction with iran is the best way forward in making iran a more responsible and reasonable state, which
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frankly it has not been to date. this is part of an overall strategy they have of engagement. but for the united states it's a very kind of different approach. i think it is a problem, the fact that the u.s. and the european union appear to be having separate press conferences on this i think it is too bad and it does show that it has been very hard to keep -- keep the p 5 together on this. >> and in fact minister zarif made reference to that saying his problem is he has to negotiate with others and they are not on the same page. he's been the only one speaking publicly and it's been a complete information vacuum. u.s. officials have not spoken on almost any basis, not off the record, deep background all of the -- to say somebody is talking to you on a corridor certainly not on camera or on the record. we had no briefings on the record. the iranians have enjoyed full
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reign with the entire international press corps here. >> we faced that with the north koreans, what you didn't want to do is background people and say we have a deal on this or that and north koreans deny we have the deal so in their view, in view of many negotiators, nothing is agreed until everything is agreed. often when you kind of put things out to say we're on track, we're doing this then it gets blown up in the media with a consequence that you're negotiating partner says no that's not true we're nowhere near agreeing on that. i think they've decided to err on the side of caution and given the criticism back in washington, they are probable my right. that said the moment this press conference or whatever the announcement is is done they are really going to have to get on things in washington because i think this is going to be as difficult to sell as i've ever
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seen. >> i wanted to show you how zarif handled the questions about sanctions, we should explain, there are a lot of sanctions, u.n. sanctions, american sanctions, european sanctions, most of the tough ones under president obama and former treasury secretary tim geithner and they affect the oil and banking and financial sectors which have been so tough on the iranian economy. this is what he had to say. >> you have developed personal respect in the process. we have a very serious problem of confidence mutual lack of confidence which we need to address and we hope this process will remedy some of that. >> what he said when we asked about the sanctions, it wasn't a question just of timing. i said is it the timing? he said you're putting words in my mouth. i didn't say that. he said that there have to be
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all of the sanctions lifted at the -- he said all of the sanctions have to be lifted but there is a process for how that would be done. i think they are going to announce or explain later some sort of mechanism where there will be a vote or trigger on the sanctions and it may be at the u.n. chris hill thank you very much for your expertise. this is going to be tough. it's going to be a very tough political road. but thanks for being with us today as all of this is evolving, and kristen welker back to you with the news in kenya. >> we have inkredsible coverage and big question how does president obama sell this once this deal is finalized. we'll of course update you on any reaction we get from the white house and check back in with andrea in a few minutes. we want to turn to breaking news out of kenya where a standoff continues at a university after members of a somali militant group stormed the campus in a shooting rampage. the interior minister says there
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are more than 70 people dead in the attack on the campus in the northeastern part of the country near the somalia border and report 79 injured, 500 students rescued and operations are still ongoing. the group al shabab may also be hosting hostages. here's how one student described it. >> guys started jumping up and down running for their lives. but it's unfortunate where they are going to is where the gunshots were coming from. so this meant the guys to -- find some hideouts in the field. >> the interior ministry says on the twitter account, two terrorists have been killed at the ongoing confrontation at garissa college. what is the latest on this raid kelly? >> reporter: this has been going on for more than 13 hours, kristen and we understand from the interior ministry that the
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rescue operation what they are calling a rescue operation has intensified. that statement coming out just within the past hour. at the same time they were saying two of the terrorists had been killed. but again, this is ongoing. we have no idea how many hostages are being held in this dormitory on this college campus. we also don't know how many gunmen were involved in this attack. there have been reports that there were possibly six, maybe as many as ten, possibly more. but this happened under the cover of darkness. it was very very early in the morning, about 5:00 5:30 in the morning local time when all of this started. so -- there was a huge amount of confusion obviously as this started, most of the students were sleeping at the time in their dormitories when the gunfire began. kristen, we also understand that this -- that these gunmen were
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targeting christians. one man we spoke to said that he saw the students running out of the university early this morning, running for their lives and they told him that they were asked by these gunmen who's a muslim, who's a christian. the muslims were allowed to leave the christians were not. >> this is a group to put al shabab into context that has ties no al qaeda. they have claimed responsibility for a number of recent attacks including the 2013 attack at the mall in nairobi, kenya, which claimed 67 lives. tell us more about this group, are they gaining strength? they don't seem to be ceasing these type of attacks? >> african forces along with kenyan forces have been really upping the pressure against alshabab since the attack in nairobi. in response there has been this
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counter attacks by al shabab they targeted a bus in the same region of the university late last year and targeted a quarry. the attacks are very similar in nature. it follows along the same lines of singling out christians as opposed to muslims. and this is a terror group that has been under pressure but has not stopped the kenyan officials have had a very tough time stopping and preventing these types of attacks. having said that there was a warning that went out at some point last week just a few days ago warning students at nairobi university and other universities that al shabab could have been planning an attack on a university. very aware that this is a constant threat in this country. >> incredibly tragic story you're tracking there out of
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kenya. kelly, thank you for that update. we appreciate it. we'll have much more on our big breaking news from switzerland when we come right back only on msnbc. stay with us. from pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. whether your business is moving, expanding or just getting started... only new york offers you zero taxes for 10 years with startup ny business incubators that partner companies with universities, and venture capital funding for high growth industries. see how new york can grow your business and create jobs. visit --i don't know my credit score. that's really important. i mean - i don't know my credit score. don't you want to buy a, ever? you should probably check out credit karma, it's free. credit? karma? free? credit karma. really free credit scores. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site
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and now to the latest on the breaking news out of switzerland. senior white house correspondent chris jansing joining us from the white house where they are tracking developments quite closely. are we expecting to hear from the president about this? >> we're still expecting to hear from him but he was expected to leave, we're coming on 45 minutes ago to go to louisville to do an economic address. but he has not left yet and the people who are with him who track his movements when he travels are in a holding pattern. we know senior white house officials have been in a meeting and the question obviously what you've been talking to andrea about, what are the details when
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we pushed senior white house officials on what would be acceptable as a deal what would be enough to move forward, they reiterated just yesterday there has to be some significant details in writing that it would be hard to imagine the president having to go before congress go before the american people and just say well here's what the iranians have told me they are willing to do as opposed to having something in writing. the other reason for this delay obviously is that you can only put so many contingentcyies in place when you don't know what the final details are going to be and in a sense what you're going to have to have your message be. you can't prepare for every vulty, we're in a wait and hold mode. the president supposed to have left for louisville 45 minutes ago. >> chris jansing, appreciate thatup date. we'll check back in with you as need be. we're tracking breaking news on the germanwings flight 9525.
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the co-pilot believed to have intentionally crashed the plane, they found evidence he searched information about cockpit door security and the second black box has been found. we're expecting to hear from the french prosecutor any moment now, joining me now from the french alps what are we expecting to hear claudio? >> reporter: that prosecutor's press started now. we expect that he confirms that the second black box was found, we don't know when it was found. it was all over the french media early on. a journalist claims to have spoken directly. the second black box was found on first day of the crash, now why will they have hidden that information for ten days if that is confirmed. we cannot confirm that yet.
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but certainly what we know is that the prosecutors here in france have been very forthcoming with information. if you remember the second day from -- day after the crash they revealed they found the first black box but had to wait for until they could interpret what it contained. then "the new york times" broke the story and said they already knew that the pilots -- that they figured out it was a co-pilot who flew the plane into the alps. >> we'll go to the press conference live now. >> so it's thanks to the bea -- an example of a black box or sample black box that they retrieved from a former plane crash. so we were able to do significant research. so the box is the same color as the rock. we have pictures for you if you'd like to see them.
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the box was found to the left of a ravine and it had already been touched and explored a few times but it was completely unable to be seen from the naked eye. we really had to dig in to find it. its general state allows us to hope that there is a possibility to analyze and exploit the data. as you know this box should contain about 500 recordings. namely the speed of the plane, its altitude the way the engine was working, as well as how the pilots were responding to commands and the different piloting modes that the plane was using. so again, this is indispensable
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information. this black box is going to the airport tonight in order for experts to begin analyzing it. experts from the bea. second point i'd like to make i'd like to inform you all that we have information about the 2,854 fragments that we have analyzed pieces of debris again, 2,285 little pieces of dna and among these 150 dna profiles were isolated. again, 150 dna profiles were isolated. thanks to the ircga lab. this doesn't mean that we have
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identified the 150 victims, i want to hit home on this point. it means that now we need to compare the dna, the post mortemdmorte mxtm dna to the anti-mortem dna that the families provided us. luckily this work will begin early next week. so as soon as each identification is completed, the families will be immediately informed, no matter their nationality. i promise you that after each identification is completed, each family will be informed immediately.
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however, the return of bodies can only occur after the identification committee which is overseen by interpol as well as judicial authorities, medical experts, doctors and biologists those who are in charge of investigation teams, they all have to meet first in order to validate the findings of this investigation. so first we're doing dna comparisons to identify every single person. as soon as a match has been made the families will be advised, however, we will have to wait until all of the research is done and we have identified all
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150 people and we're doing this work with interpol in order to actually return the bodies. so for the time being, i can't give you any more information. but i can assure you that everything will be done in due time by the labs by our office so that the delay is as short as possible. thank you very much for your attention. i would like the -- to speak for a few minutes. they'll answer your questions if you have any. thank you very much mr. prosecutor. so you've spoken about the two fundamental issues really at the heart of the work we're doing, namely that we found the flight
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data recorder box, the second black box and it really points us to the second piece of the work we're doing, which is the identification of the dna. so this is all being worked on between the crash site which is still closed off as well as paris where the headquarters are and this is where the very delicate work of the dna comparison is being done. between the postmortem dna and pre-mortem dna. we had certain delays bought the work has really ramped up this week because we've been able to take advantage of a certain opening. luckily, local authorities were able to open up a certain path at 1500 meters which brought us
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really to the foot of the mountain where the catastrophe occurred. so thanks to this path trucks were able to access the area with bags and again, i mean air experts were present the entire time but they were able to transport items from the crash site to the police department. so then ultimately we're able to transport tons of information from there to the headquarters in paris. so that's what accounts for the acceleration and the considerable volume of work that's been completed in the last few days. not only of personal items but also biological elements.
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and again, there's a lot of work being done to gather personal items, conserve these personal items by the investigators on the scene. but we still have to continue analyzing all of this. we found about 50 cell phones for example, so there are about 470 pieces of personal items and the cell phones we found are obviously pretty ruined. so it's going to be pretty difficult to analyze the information on any of the cell phones. again, it's being done at the criminal institute of research but in an investigation of this type, there always have to be priorities and again the priorities are the identification of the victims and so any fragments and any biological elements we can find
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are -- so by searching for the two black boxes we've also placed all of our efforts in identifying all of the victims. which means that finding people's personal belongings isn't as important but we have not cast it aside. those are any complimentary explanations that i can provide. yet again, though the research has not ended, we're continuing our presence is not diminishing, even today four different teams from our police department were there, even specialists -- specialized dogs who have been trained to be searching for certain bodies and elements so
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we are still trying to find as many pertinent elements as we can in terms of searching for bodies. and as soon as this crash site has been as emptied as possible we will also work alongside any people responsible for actually removing large pieces of debris to be searching yet again for even more stuff that we may have missed the first time around. but in terms of our -- the quantity -- >> you're watching a press conference with officials in france announcing that investigators have in fact found a second black box from the germanwings flight that crashed into the french alps in addition to that the french prosecutor announced that investigators have found more than 2,000 fragments of dna, including 150 dna profiles that
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they'll now need to match with samples that have been provided by the victim's family members in order to identify the victims. french officials saying that once the victims are identified family members will be made aware immediately. we want to go back out now to cla clacl claudio. >> reporter: it's important they second black box because that will help investigators exclude once and for all that really was no mechanical failure on that aircraft, that it was the co-pilot who flew it into the mountains and help them to track exactly the behavior and the path of that airplane as you heard, he said that the -- the information about the pilots how the pilots responded to the commands so that means that they are probably looking for confirmation that once the pilot
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was locked outside of the coke pot, lubitz said the 100 feet altitude sending the plane into a downward path that ended in the mountain. another interesting part was the fact they confirmed they found 50 mobile phones on that crash site, of course they said it was ruined -- they were ruined but as you remember from yesterday, there was this information about a video that was circulating that some people -- some journalists have viewed but not published, that was shot on board of that plane and the fact they found 50 cell phones maybe you can extract some information with it with some difficulty but even though said it's ruined you don't need an entire mobile phone or in good condition to extract information from it. we'll see what they can get from more information from within those mobile phones.
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>> claudio lavanga, thanks we appreciate it. we have more breaking news, moments ago new jersey senator bob nen nen dez arrived at the courthouse facing an indictment that he accepted nearly $1 million in gifts and campaign contributions in exchange for political favors. he's denied he's done wrong doing. let's bring in kelly o'donnell and pete williams thanks to both of you for being here and breaking it down. pete the last time the federal government really went after a senator it was ted stevens, government wasn't that successful. they were successful in going after the former governor of virginia bob mcdonnell. are they on a roll? >> it's going to be a difficult case. two things present in the mctonld case a willing witness involved in the conspiracy, and the government tried to get the
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doctor to testify, he's not going to testify. and the seconds thing is the man in the virginia case sort of appeared when bob mcdonnell ran for governor and menendez says dr. melgin is a long time friend. i noticed in the picture of senator menendez walking into court, his defense lawyer is abby lowell. >> you reported yesterday that menendez has already stepped down from his position as the ranking democrat on the foreign relations committee and very outspoken in iran and cuba. >> fighting to keep his seat and no intention yet to resign from the senate but in leadership that's where he was able to sort of give cover to fellow democrats by saying i'll step out of the lime light in this important leadership position temporarily. other democrats are saying let's let the court proceed but republicans in terms of not office holders but republican groups are saying he should resign. the new jersey paper the star
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laej ledger is calling for him to resign. pete has been covering for the past few years, while we have expected theymy come at some point, he's been under a cloud for three years. he's ham perred politically for sure. he's a vocal critic of the administration on iran. odd timing but that's -- >> indeed. >> that the iran deal is unfolding in switzerland. for menendez he's going to have to fight hard to try to clear his name because the indictment gives a lot more detail. he's paid back some of the flights he got that were free. that's still problematic because we learned there are more instances of taking free flights. >> like 20 or so. >> pete, i want to switch gears to indiana, how to sort this out. a lot of people are confused because proponents say wait a minute, a federal law passed in 1993 very similar. this law is based off of that law. but you point out there are a
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lot of differences. >> there are two big differences between the federal law and indiana law and state laws. but indiana specifically allows private -- allows the law to be used as a defense if you're sued by somebody that isn't the government. the federal law is intended to keep the government from restricting religious rights of min orts. here in indiana, if you're sued and you're a florist and don't want to serve somebody and get sued, you can cite this law as a defense and secondly cite it as a defense if you're virtually any business regardless of your the hobby lobby, a closely held corporation that is privately owned and which everybody has the same religious view. >> thanks for being here on a very busy news day. we appreciate it. no matter what deal is done in switzerland, it's got to be sold in washington. can that be done? more with andrea and chris kunz. actually, knowing the kind of risk that you're comfortable with i'd steer clear.
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we're tracking the fast moving developments out of switzerland. andrea rejoins us from switzerland, andrea? >> reporter: thankds so much kristen, richard engel joins me now from istanbul turkey. richard, you had a awe neek perspective because you were in israel when this was being negotiated and netanyahu came out with a blistering statement rejecting the idea of even negotiating with iran calling it a murderous regime. i'm sure you picked up a lot of information there as well as from your sources in the region the saudis and others upset about this. this agreement is not going to go over well with some of america's closest allies. >> reporter: not going to go over well at all. we had a unique perspective because we've been bouncing between the muslim world and going over to israel. we're seeing an alliance both the sunni and arab states and traditional big u.s. allies and egypt, saudi arabia jordan all
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saying this is a bad deal that the process rewards iran. and israel saying the exact same thing. and it is not very often in the middle east where you have israel and the arab world singing off the same song sheet but this time when it comes to iran they most certainly are. what they are most concerned about is that this allows iran to develop -- further develop its nuclear capacity. although there will be controls which the arabs and israel don't believe will be ver fibl and it rewards iran while iran is being aggressive on the ground. it is taking territory through a proxy in yemen and the yemenny government has all been but pushed out of yemen, holding just a tiny little piece of aden and the fighting there even today has intensified. while there is iranian backed militias advancing into tikrit with u.s. air power, the arab
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world sees this as a moment that iran is trying to spread its influence and spread its power across the middle east. and don't want to see the u.s. make some sort of deal with iran that allows it to have any kind of sanctions relief at this moment. >> and richard, very briefly, there's not a whole lot that israel can do except it has enormous influence as we've seen with john boehner and not only the republicans but many democrats in congress and that's going to be the next battleground. >> reporter: it was not surprising that netanyahu came to the u.s. did give that speech in which he laid out his argument that there should be no negotiations and iran shouldn't be allowed to become a threshold country on the threshold of having a nuclear bomb. and then speaker boehner was in israel meeting with netanyahu who is just basically in the
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process of swearing in his new parliament where he has the majority. and the israelis do have considerable influence in the u.s. political system which is becoming -- well, ever more clear over the iran issue. >> thank you so much richard, always great to talk to you and have your perspective. a big news day on foreign policy. and delaware senator chris coons who serves on the subcommittee for africa joins me now. i want to ask you about the horrific events in kenya. let me first ask about iran it's going to be provisional, still a lot of work to do. no joint statement, the iranian minister here zarif is going to have a statement then separately kerry will speak. they couldn't even agree on the for mat. that does not bode well for
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getting everything, all parts of this technical agreement done by june 30th. >> that's right, andrea this is a very concerning structure to the announcement that's going to come fairly soon. and i look forward to -- i expect to be briefed thoroughly about it on the foreign relations committee we're going to return to this topic when the senate goes back into session in just a few weeks. and i do expect that the administration will keep to their position which is that no deal is better than a bad deal and that a nuclear weapons capable iran is unacceptable. i want to commend the administration for their very strong work implementing congressionally enacted sanctions and for pulling together nations as diverse as china and russia germany and france and uk in working with us to seek to negotiate a strong deal. but the early caters are not encouraging if we can't even come to an agreement about how and when and where to announce the framework. i will give this a fair consideration as i think all of
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us in congress should. i think it is important to try and reach a negotiated solution. but if iran is not willing to be transparent and to come clean about its illicit nuclear weapons program to reengineer its heavy water reactor in iraq to give up much of its existing heavily enriched uranium stock pile and freeze its centrifuge rnd, i don't think we should enter into an agreement. we should listen to our allies who are expressing grave concerns. >> and i wanted to play for you what javad zarif said to me when i was asking whether sanctions could be phased out and take u.n. sanctions in one hand and lift the american and eu sanctions and give them that relief on a time basis. watch what he said. >> to get the banking and
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financial and oil sanctions off if the u.n. sanctions remain would that be good for -- >> i cannot talk about what women rewill remain and what will go. i have said very clearly that all sanctions need to be terminated and i believe that will be the final outcome when we get to that. but i'm not going to prejudge. >> and when i asked him whether it was about timing he said you're putting words in my mouth, don't put words in your mouth. he's not suggesting how this would be sequenced. perhaps it's a congressional trigger or u.n. trigger? >> to the extent there may be a request that we roll back enacted sanctions, there has to be a role for korngal review. it's my hope the announcement will not be the end of an attempt to reach a negotiated solution with iran. let me also comment on kenya, i
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was myself an undergraduate -- >> i wanted to ask you -- >> for one semester and i'm just -- i'm heart sick about the massacre of more than 70 kenyan students at the university in garissa, it's a bracing reminder that extremists, jihadist violence isn't limited to the middle east. countries from somalia to kenya has suffered and they have carried out another deadly attack. kenya is a ally to the united states and our hearts and prayers go out to the people of kenya and families waiting to hear about the ultimate outcome at garissa university. >> in fact i was going to ask you about that because we now know that u.s. counter terrorism officials is reporting -- are reporting that in fact this attack by al shab bab was planned for quite some time and
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the president of the united states is planning to go to kenya, they announced a visit this summer. >> we have a long and strong relationship with kenya. and it's my hope that an increased focus on both effective counter terrorism partnerships across the continent and the sorts of respect for civil liberties and development and economic growth that could lead to a long term or positive environment in combination can improve the security and stability of kenya. but first we need to stand with the families who have suffered horrible losses and need to sustain our partnership with kenya as they continue to contribute to the military effort against al shabab and somalia and as we continue the hard work of counterterrorism in east africa. >> thank you so much senator chris coons, back to you in washington. >> we know you'll continue to track all of developments as they break out of switser lands. we will be right back with a lot more. stay with us. 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food.
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we are waiting for press statements from secretary of state john kerry, and iranian foreign minister javad zarif, he tweeted, found solutions ready to start drafting immediately and eu representative tweeted, good news. stay with us as we continue to follow it. that story, but that does it for this very busy edition of andrea mitchell reports. my colleague, thomas roberts, joins me with what's coming up. i know you're going to continue to track the developments out of switzerland. >> we'll pick up where you left off and take i back for the breaking story we're watching iran and nuclear deal about to be announced. we'll take you live to that press conference in switser lands and gunmen attack a university in kenya killing 70 people and the news that the co-pilot of the doomed german plane searched suicide methods
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we begin with breaking news in the iran nuclear talks. iran and six world powers reached a preliminary agreement that end this round of talks. a press statement is expected to happen at any moment. zarif tweeting found solutions ready to start drafting immediately and we're expecting to hear from the president as well. this morning the iranian foreign minister remained firm on the need to end all sanctions. >> i cannot talk about what will remain and what will go. i have said very clearly that all sanctions need to be terminated and i believe that will be the final outcome when we get to that. >> we're following all the developments, chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell is in


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